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chabad, conservative, why the messiah is not even close

Good News Alert: The Golden Rule Applies Only to People With Whom You Agree.

In this thread, I take offense to the idea that all Reform and Conservative groups are comprised of selfish and superficial Jews who wouldn't know self-sacrifice if it hit them in the head. In response, I get called a crank, scoffer and a ho. Yep. Check it out before the thread disappears. 

And it is precisely because of the Shoah that we owe goyim nothing except to make sure they leave us alone (and keep the 7 Mitzvos Bnei Noiach which include leaving us alone). Rare is the goy who says a word when a Jew bleeds. Most secretly rejoice. When every Jew is fed and has proper medical care, then we can worry about tribesmen who slash each other up and who would slash us up for a fiver given half a chance. Nevertheless, plenty of shluchim help goyim, if only by providing them with employment at wages far above the average in remote locations. But most do far more, and many is the goy who pretends he is a Jew to get assistance, and is rarely questioned because the shluchim would rather err than let one Jew fall into hunger .  From here.

So the liberal self-hating Jew has spoken again! I think a good dose of Chassidus can clean up some of the poison I see here.

mcp is a scoffer who only shows how grub she is every time she vomits out another silly post. Here.


How many times have we heard chabad spout  PC lines such as "there is no such thing as a reform or conservative Jew, just a Jew" and that labels are for cans, not Jews?  Well, yeah. That's what they tell the secular world when they are trying to mekarev them. But in private, when they think no one is watching, many Lubavitchers will sing a different song. Lest you think that this thread is an abberration or full of  random crazy people, note that many, many Orthodox people allow speaking loshon hora against reform and conservative movements in the guise of " we must eradicate the evil from our midst." Basically, the way it works is that in some segments of the frum world,  Ahavat Yisroel applies pretty much to those people you agree with and are friends with anyway. It most certainly doesn't apply to anyone whose ideas you don't agree with and can label as dangerous or subversive.

For the record, there were people on that thread who defended me by posting that I am not, in fact, a ho or that such terminology is inappropriate for a chabad site.  Oddly, though, there weren't many posts noting that painting all non-orthodox Jews as selfish, poisoned and "deformed" is inappropriate for a chabad site because Judaism/Torah/Hashem/ Rebbe wouldn't have wanted  anyone to speak like that about others. Why is that?