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: Judeo-Christian Values
Tags: gentiles, islam, israel, parshah
Fred Taub, the author of this article, lives in our town and emails everyone a weekly newsletter with links to his work.
His basic argument here is that Islam is similar to Nazism because both groups have "a mental disorder," an inferiority complex that arises from their dislike of individuals who do not belong to their group.
Yeah. Here's what he writes:
...This brings us to traditional Islam, meaning without Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam. Throughout the Koran, there is not only degradation of non-Muslims, who are subject to the dhimmi laws prescribing persecution and special taxes, but there is also internal persecution of Muslim women to the point where they are treated as nothing more than property. In fact, Muslims will generally treat animals better than women, as Islam forbids the beating of animals. You may recall seeing a video of a Muslim cleric on Al-Jazeera television who not only advocated the beating of one’s wife, but also specified how and when it should be done according to the Koran.
Societies such as the KKK, Nazis and Islam, which have the degradation of others at the root of their dogma, are inherently incapable of achieving peace, because the hate which permeates the psyche of the followers debases the trust and cooperation needed to sustain peace with others. These hate values are also diametrically opposed to the Judea-Christian values which prescribe respect for all others, despite distortion of the Bible by groups such as the KKK.
People with Judea-Christian values tend to assume others share their values of brotherhood when attempting to achieve Middle East peace. Irrespective of societies, an inferiority complex can be a learned behavior, yet it is still a mental disorder. Just as it is fundamentally futile to deal with domestic hate groups in good faith, the history of Middle East peace negotiations has been proven futile as well. We have learned, albeit the hard way, that negotiation with unstable people can only have unstable results.
So basically, all followers of Islam have a mental disorder which results in their hatred towards the "other" and so therefore we should not bother trying to achieve any sort of peace. Peace, which, by the way, we only seek in the first place because of our Judeo-Christian values, the ones that promote brotherhood.
Fred, maybe you will be shocked to learn this, but brotherhood is in no way a Judeo-Christian value. A simple glance at the gemara, the chumash and history will show that religious Jews and Christians both look down upon people who are not part of their group and have strict hierarchies proscribing behavior for people of different status within the group. Hell, a brief glance at yesterday's parsha, Korach, will teach you the same thing.
Jewish women were often treated as property as reflected in the halachos that pertain to the kesuba. The Rambam allows the beating of wives for non-compliance with wifely duties. In some places, today,frum women are not allowed to drive, just like in Saudia Arabia. Extensive civil wars as well as invasions and conquests of other territories characterize much of the Jews' early sojourns in Israel, all chronicled in detail in Nach. Hatred of gentiles is well documented in the gemara and later seforim. Some of this is historically justified in light of the crusades, inquisitions and pogroms. Which must have reflected the Christian part of Judeo- Christian values, don't you think?
In fact, I would argue that increased secularization of society and the decreased emphasis placed on religion and nationality is the primary reason for " international brotherhood" even becoming a worthwhile goal for which to strive.
So basically, all followers of Islam have a mental disorder which results in their hatred towards the "other" and so therefore we should not bother trying to achieve any sort of peace. Peace, which, by the way, we only seek in the first place because of our Judeo-Christian values, the ones that promote brotherhood.
Fred, maybe you will be shocked to learn this, but brotherhood is in no way a Judeo-Christian value. A simple glance at the gemara, the chumash and history will show that religious Jews and Christians both look down upon people who are not part of their group and have strict hierarchies proscribing behavior for people of different status within the group. Hell, a brief glance at yesterday's parsha, Korach, will teach you the same thing.
Jewish women were often treated as property as reflected in the halachos that pertain to the kesuba. The Rambam allows the beating of wives for non-compliance with wifely duties. In some places, today,frum women are not allowed to drive, just like in Saudia Arabia. Extensive civil wars as well as invasions and conquests of other territories characterize much of the Jews' early sojourns in Israel, all chronicled in detail in Nach. Hatred of gentiles is well documented in the gemara and later seforim. Some of this is historically justified in light of the crusades, inquisitions and pogroms. Which must have reflected the Christian part of Judeo- Christian values, don't you think?
In fact, I would argue that increased secularization of society and the decreased emphasis placed on religion and nationality is the primary reason for " international brotherhood" even becoming a worthwhile goal for which to strive.
Prejudices between Jews and Muslims are complex and with deep roots in history and sincere religious beliefs as well as simple stereotypes and bigotry. To couch all of this in psychobabble language and proclaim everyone who doesn't want peace on your terms to have a mental disorder is not only simplistic but ultimately ironic. Who else has a mental disorder according to your definition, Fred? Most of the people in my shul, it would seem. Most of the frum people who sincerely believe that gentiles are on a lower rung of the holiness ladder than they are. Most of the frum people who believe that Arabs are subhuman, regardless of their religious or political affiliation. A large majority of frum people who sincerely believe that giving land to Muslims is assur, halachically, regardless of anything else. This article is pot calling the kettle black. Or in other words, mum shebecha, al tomar l'chavercha.
Tags: gentiles, islam, israel, parshah